# UX Observations from New Users or YouTubers

**URL:** <https://discourse.beets.io/t/ux-observations-from-new-users-or-youtubers/2229>\
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**Created:** [December 26, 2022, 5:16am UTC](https://discourse.beets.io/t/ux-observations-from-new-users-or-youtubers/2229 "2022-12-26T05:16:47Z")\
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I found a few videos on Beets by searching like “beets music organizer” “beets music python”. There are at least 2 semi popular setup videos. Does anyone have any observations of when they started using beets? Or know anyone else they introduced beets to, and their experience?

I found one youtuber uses a container maintained by [linuxserver.io](http://linuxserver.io). And I found they modify config.yaml:

> <https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-beets/issues/94>
>
> \### Is this a new feature request?
> 
> \- \[X\] I have searched the existing issues
> 
> \#…## Wanted change
> 
> There's a mismatch between the config here and the default beets config:
> 
> https://github.com/beetbox/beets/blob/master/beets/config\_default.yaml
> 
> https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-beets/blob/master/root/defaults/config.yaml
> 
> Perhaps most critically is this part in upstream:
> 
> import:
> write: yes
> copy: yes
> move: no
> 
> This means "copy all imported music to a new folder, and write new tags into the copied files, and leave the raw imported files alone", basically. 
> 
> This repo has:
> import:
> write: yes
> copy: no
> move: yes
> 
> This is a source of confusion, with a popular YouTuber (Techno Dad Life) recommending a change from these defaults. https://youtu.be/IQGM52MiIqg?t=198
> 
> Is there a reason for this?
> 
> \### Reason for change
> 
> I can't find any commit where upstream has move:yes.
> 
> https://github.com/beetbox/beets/commits/master?after=cc7abe3a4734de73c86cb9ba6253c6a5596a042b+69&branch=master&path%5B%5D=beets&path%5B%5D=config\_default.yaml&qualified\_name=refs%2Fheads%2Fmaster
> 
> \### Proposed code change
> 
> \_No response\_

This could be a gotcha depending on how many people install this way.

Observations and paraphrases:

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/beets/original/1X/ca356005b6c7ced3682871aede3a9c4795c525d0.jpeg "Beets - A Free, Open Source, CLI Tool for Identifying and Tagging your Music with correct metadata.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-WeZhlU0_I)

- Some confusion on how autotagger works (why didn’t Beets detect the filename and use that; except the youtuber didn’t know that was a possibility)
- Impressed with core autotagger functionality, a lot of the time it works without input
- My take: ID penalty (MBID?) seems steep for this user; they had title/artist match but I guess there was an MBID already in the tags? Could have been a toy example, an artifact of how he made the video. Penalized -40% and that brought it to manual match territory.

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/beets/original/1X/b2f3cb387194eb4f8e71355bd3c8a3999a374f5b.jpeg "Beautify Your Music Collection with Beets : the App, not the Vegetable.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQGM52MiIqg)

- autotag can be long
- you have to babysit it (can we communicate to the user that the autotagger is working on other threads while waiting for input?)
- not clear he knows the 95% autotag threshold is customizable
- likes that beets puts albums into their own folder
- likes merging CDs into one folder (4 CD set into 1 folder)
- 2 second mention in prior video that beets is easy [Ultimate Music Stack: Airsonic, daapd, Beets, Mstream - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y45vimJbi2I)

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://discourse.beets.io/t/ux-observations-from-new-users-or-youtubers/2229/2 "2023-04-07T17:21:26Z")

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